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  • THE FOREST FOR THE TREES is about writing, publishing and what makes writers tick. This blog is dedicated to the self loathing that afflicts most writers. A community of like-minded malcontents gather here. I post less frequently now, but hopefully with as much vitriol. Please join in! Gluttons for punishment can scroll through the archives.

    If I’ve learned one thing about writers, it’s this: we really are all alone. Thanks for reading. Love, Betsy

Doesn’t anybody stay in one place any more?

Cher Madame Lerner,

Until July 3rd of this year I never wrote anything but prescriptions albeit good ones like valium and prozac. Since then I have been writing about my recent mid life crisis which involved me walking away from a big career as a psychiatrist in Canada to clean toilets in rural France (seriously). Now every single day someone tells me that my doodles would make a great book. I imagine this falls into the same category as everyone thinking they have good taste, a great sense of humor and excellent driving skills.

My question is this. I have discovered that I love writing beyond all things but I have no idea if I’m any good or ‘marketable’ in any way so how does one test those waters? I know that you likely get a million emails like this every day but if you answer mine I’ll quid pro quo ya with 1 piece of free psychiatric advice. Desperate ploy I know.

Anyway, I really enjoy your blog and thanks for your time.

Regards, (Name Withheld)

Friends,

Often at writing conferences, when we are talking about the fine art of query letters, people ask me how I like to be addressed. Cher Madame Lerner is how I like to be addressed. I knew I would answer this letter long before the promise of psychiatric advise. Here’s the deal. You are smart to recognize that everyone thinks they are good at driving, etc. You are also in good company: Eat Pray Tampon. Under the Tampon Sun, A Tampon by the Sea. There’s lots of precedent for women doing mid-life, peri-menopausal walkabouts. I think I’m about to embark on one myself. I think I’ll call it Moby Tampon. IDK. All that matters is the writing. And if you evoke that universal feeling of being stifled, of loveless marriage, of desperately craving to change, and hungering for something that might be called spiritual, along with a good Fourme de Montbrison and Pinot Gris, who knows you might have a major bestseller on your hands and a  movie that grosses 44 mil domestic unless Meryl Streep plays you, in which case bump that to 112 mil.

Dude, write your heart out. Delete half of it. Get it into the hands of a writing workshop, class or freelance editor. Work on it more. Repeat. Send it to moi and five other agents. See what happens. If you bottom out, try again. Revise. Start a new project. Revise, etc. Never give up. Self-publish. Just keep writing and developing and living. That’s the most important part.

If you comment today, please leave one free piece of psychiatric advise,  either for me or the other mental patients who hang around this blog. And to to our French wanderer: Thanks for the question and Bon Chance!

Like It Was Written in My Soul From Me to You


This post is about living with writers. Can’t live with them, can’t get them to pay attention to you. Sometimes, my husband and I will hear someone say something and recognize that it’s a perfect line of dialogue, and  one  of us will say, “I call it,” like children fighting over the last piece of french toast.

Sometimes it’s really difficult to create the mental solitude in a house where another bear sleeps. Sure, you can tap at dawn, tap at midnight, but the books are creaking in their shelves. Teeth are aching as if from cold. The old man is pouring. Where do you hide?

Are writers the neediest sheep in the pasture, or are they self-sufficient? Where do you hide your notebooks. I only read them that one time, before we married, when I needed to know. Okay, maybe I read them again, but you never said anything about me. It was galling.

Why do writers fall for each other when they both know it’s an act?

Did I ever tell you about the time I was in Mississippi in a bar and Barry Hannah was there, quite intoxicated, waving a hunny around, asking if anyone wanted to fuck a real writer.

Dearest Darling Anyone who is reading, tell me, have you ever fucked a real writer, dated one, lived with one, god help you, married one?  Or, to put it another way, what’s it like living with you?

Cause all da bitches love me

My favorite part of any reading is the q&a that follows, just as my favorite part of most museum visits is the gift shop. And last night was no different. First, that awful anxiety when the crowd is asked: do you have any questions. No hands. No questions? People all squirmy. Finally, a hand goes up in the front row. Phew. A young man begins by professing his love for this author’s work, then he talks about his own generation of writers and what they have learned from her. Finally, the question comes: is there a young artist or writer who you feel carries your torch?

The writer shoves her hands deep in her jeans pockets. Well, she says, I’m not exactly ready to give up my torch. The audience laughs. Innocence and experience. I remember an author of probably six books tell me that he felt the next generation of writers breathing down his neck, nipping at his heels. He tells me how, when he was young, he typed on a makeshift desk next to the boiler in his cramped basement just to get away from the babies and noise. How over the hours he spent typing he would strip down to underwear, but how he kept writing. Those were the days!

The writer urged the young man to find his own torch. Anxiety. Influence. She said they could share her torch. I guess what I’m thinking about is: how much do you feel the so called next generation usurping you, how much does ambition fuel your writing, is it a young man’s game, how much do you love your influences or need to kill them?

Are you the young man who sticks his hand in the air first, the middle aged woman who asks a question but needs to speak up for anyone to hear her, or are you like me, a million questions burning in my head, silent torch.

Wild Geese That Fly With the Moon On Their Wing

I’ve been doing a bunch of interviews for Forest for the Trees 2.O. I’ve been “upbeat.” I don’t even recognize myself. That’s an exaggeration. I recognize some part of myself, the part of myself that has been a cheerleader for writers for 25 years. But who is she?

There are days when I can’t even begin to fathom how people get dressed, one foot in their underpants, then the other. When the sight of an adult lunch box could make me weep. I watch a woman on the train apply a full face of make-up. I have complete contempt for her but I can’t stop watching. What are we, Cleopatra? Do you ever think how fun it is to drive? Do you ever think that writing can have you? Can you believe some people wear uniforms? Badges! Do I need to tweet? Am I on Facebook? How many hits do you get on your blog? How many hits do you get on your fucking blog? I’ll fuck you up. I’ll fuck you up. So much has changed in ten years. Consider this: blah blah blah. When do I find time to write? When do I find time to pick my face? When do I find time to read one poem over and over and never get it? And never want to. Briefcases are so sad. Buckles. Rubbers. An inscription in a book you buy in a second-hand store.

What have you lost?

And Your Horse Naturally Won

I went to Blue State today, a local coffee swillery, to get some reading done. It was packed and I shared a table with a young man who kindly gestured for me to sit when he noticed my stunned where-am-I-going-to-sit-in-the-cafeteria look. Just a page into my manuscript, he asked me if I was reading a manuscript. Yes. Then, politely, he asked if I would tell him what I was writing. I explained that I worked with writers, that the manuscript belonged to a client. He wanted to know what it was about. I told him. I started reading again. He returned to highlighting his own notes in a wide, unlined notebook.

May I disturb you again, he asked. Is there any other purpose to reading beyond  information or entertainment? I think so, I said. Such as, he asked.  Consolation, identification, understanding, I said, for communicating.  Do think there’s anything wrong with playing hundreds of hours of video games, he asked. I said I wasn’t sure. Pinball was my game freshman year. But that’s just reflexes,  he said, these games are whole worlds, and then he said something about an avatar. I thought he was a lonely freshman, but it turns out he was a lonely first year architecture student from Canada.

I remember spending hours in cafes when I was an undergraduate. I don’ think I ever spoke to anyone. I didn’t need to, armed with my notebook, Rimbaud, and Marlboro Lights. What about you? Cafe time? And, just for the hell of it, where do you stand on Starbucks?  We’ve known each other long enough; I want to know what you drink, if you drink, and if you ever wrote anything at a Starbucks worth reading. I’m extremely happy they didn’t exist when I needed to brood full-time.

Baby, It’s Cold Outside

 

I am what I am

 

Yesterday, I was at the gym reading about Kelsey Grammer’s divorce from his wife of 14 years. Kelsey, according to his ex-Camille, was going to New York to prepare for his role in La Cage Aux Folles (a production I saw!?!). She wanted to go with him, but he begged off explaining that the rehearsal schedule would be arduous, he’d never see her or the kids. Okay, she stayed in LA. Of course, you know where this is going. He embarks on a new relationship. (Yes, a flight attendant but so fucking what.) Camille finds out from a friend. And this is where my heart nearly stopped and not from my exertion on the tread mill. She called him to ask if it were true. She begged him to give their relationship another chance. She wept. What about the kids, the years together. According to her account he replied thus: Grow up.

When my husband worked for a major trade publisher, he asked for a raise and was denied. Then, he was offered a job by another publisher, nearly doubling his salary. When he went back to his employer with the news of the offer, she immediately matched it. He asked her where the money was just weeks ago when he wanted a raise. She said, Grow up.

What does it really mean, grow up? Does it mean stop pretending you don’t get what is happening? Does it mean I am far superior to you, child. Does it mean give up your foolish dreams? Does it cut to the chase? Or destroy it? What the fuck am I writing about? I realize I could apply those two words to about ten situations I’m in right now and I would feel chastened because all the angst and misery that pretends to be cloaked in some kind of confusion is bullshit. Grow Up!

Two questions: what the fuck is this post about?  Second: is there anyone you would like to tell to grow up and why (apart from me because this, after all,  is my sandbox).

8 Hours Left

Janet Reid’s got a great contest running on her fantastic  blog and the winner gets, yes you guessed it, a copy of the revised and updated FOREST FOR THE TREES. You can’t win if you don’t play. Have a great weekend, Betsy

Having My Baby

My husband sold his first novel last month. When we were just out of college, we’d meet on Friday nights, go for dinner at the Second Avenue Deli, go to the St. Marks Poetry Workshop, and then spend hours at the Cloisters Cafe talking poetry, love, life. I smoked Marlboro Lights. He smoked Parliaments. We didn’t become romantically involved until much later, but we cemented a friendship that was fueled in part by a belief in the other as a writer. Neither of us chose the path of a writer’s life. We’ve both worked full time in publishing for more than 25 years and have done all our writing on weekends, nights, or pre-dawn. When we had our daughter, we spelled each other for long weekend days so the other could write. We understood the desire to be alone. It’s more than a desire. It’s a necessity, an imperative.

How much time do you spend alone, need to spend alone? Is there someone in your life you believes in you as a writer? How are we all going to find the boat and row home?

You’re Leaving There Too Soon

Went to Brooklyn today (three subways) to talk with Pratt undergraduates about publishing. Naturally, I became nostalgic about my college years, never mind the near constant misery. The big difference as far as I can tell is that we never met publishing professionals, never talked about how to get published. I think in some ways we were lucky not to start those engines too soon. We didn’t even have a creative writing major. We were allowed to take one writing course and I took poetry; the professor favored the ballerina-poets. I wrote all the time in my journals. I went to cafes and wrote and smoked and read. But I had no idea what a query letter was or how to write one. I had no idea what an agent was or what they were for. Today’s kids have seen Jerry Maguire, they  study the box office grosses, they know the names of power agents.

I’m old fashioned. I think it might be better to stave off getting that knowledge for as long as possible, to protect your innocence as a writer the way we try to protect childhood. Am I ridiculous? Does the act of writing imply the desire for publication? Is it better for young people to get as much information as possible, to hear about how publishing works from people like me? Do you remember when you made your first attempts to get published or find an agent — whether you got one or not, got published or not — how did it feel to enter the fray?

You Would Cry Too If It Happened to You

Do my tits look really big in this shirt? Agh, getting ready for a dinner party. Eighteen people. A frighteningly high percentage of poets. Other brainiacs from the campus known as Yale. Maybe some day, in anticipation of a dinner party, I will feel and behave like a grown up, but not yet. Why do I want to have a tv dinner and watch Glee in my jammies?  My husband points out the networking possibilities. This is the exact wrong thing to say. Though I know he is right and I know that other agents would work the room like a square dance chain. Last night, in anticipation of the big event, I threw a shit fit over which water pitchers to use. My husband and daughter got really quiet and I knew crossed a line. It felt insanely good. One of my professors used to call parties enforced gaiety.

Does anyone really like parties? Anyone? Please tell me how much you hate them. Or the worst thing that ever happened at a party besides waking up in the bushes on Eastern Parkway with your bra in your jeans pocket and vomit in your hair.