• Forest for the Trees
  • THE FOREST FOR THE TREES is about writing, publishing and what makes writers tick. This blog is dedicated to the self loathing that afflicts most writers. A community of like-minded malcontents gather here. I post less frequently now, but hopefully with as much vitriol. Please join in! Gluttons for punishment can scroll through the archives.

    If I’ve learned one thing about writers, it’s this: we really are all alone. Thanks for reading. Love, Betsy

The Words She KNows The TUnes She Hums

I watched a movie over the weekend called Margaret. The movie was many things, but at its heart a powerful mother daughter story, or at least that’s how I read it. It said everything I’ve been trying to say with my so-called movie. Only I realized that I have been writing with crayons. Fuck shit piss. It sucks when you realize how low you really are on the ladder of who gets fucked and who doesn’t. And this brilliant movie by Kenneth Lonergan was apparently put on ice for twelve years over disputes among the producers and only just released on Netflix. No red carpet, no party, no Box Office returns. It’s from the same director of You Can Count On Me, which was a near perfect evocation of adult siblings dealing with an infirm father. Laura Linney. Philip Seymour Hoffman. It’s really okay. Every way to look at “where you are” in the great food chain of work getting produced is subject to nausea, panic, and delusional thinking. You just have to keep working and hopefully improving. I’m not giving up the ship, just a little wind taken out of my sails. Margaret, are you grieving, over Goldengrove  unleaving?

What have you read or seen lately that made you feel like a piece of shit?

I’ve Stepped in the Middle of Seven Sad Forests

Please come hear Bill Carter read from his new book, BOOM, BUST, BOOM A Story About Copper, The Metal That Runs the World. And join us for a drink and writer talk on:

Tuesday, October 16  

Half King

  505 West 23rd Street   NYC

     7pm

Yes, it is a requirement to be devilishly good looking as well as a damn good writer to be a client of mine. Bill writes in the tradition of Jim Harrison and Sebastian Junger. He has written about the war in Sarajevo,  commercial salmon fishing in Alaska, and here about the world’s largest and most toxic copper mines — a dazzling work of reportage about the red metal.

Why Do You Build Me Up Buttercup Just to Let Me Down

Don’t start your query letter with the name of your character. Lucy Links is on the rebound! Martine Kessell grew up in Capetown. Carl Noop never thought he was meant for great things.

Why? Why does it always sound…silly?  Or cartoonish? Is this just me?

Nora Elle Martin is heading home for her high school reunion! Arthur Horowitz walks 2.2 miles every day on the tread mill in the hopes of seeing Binny Abromowitz. Abigail Stone, when left to her own devices, thought about shards.

I think it has to do with the fact that the character doesn’t exist. THere is no context. You’ve gone off the deep end before knowing if the pool was filled. Is this making any sense? I get query letters like this every day and and they make me groan.

Ronnie Melt couldn’t stop thinking about the time she and Pablo Anger made out in the back of her father’s Jaguar. Farnia Parnassus always dreamed of flying. The first time Ricky Pert went to rehab would not be the last.

You can start a novel with your protagonist’s name, but I counsel against it int he query letter. But I’m just one literary agent.

Come on, give us a really bad sentence.

I’m Choosing My Confessions

I ask a writer to add a scene so I better understand a character. He invents a scene that blows me away. It feels so real that I privately think it’s autobiographical. Of course I don’t ask because that would be a) naive b) uncouth and c) uncool. Why does my mind jump there? How much of fiction is autobiographical? Why do we read made up stories? Are we children? Why do we hope to extract truth from fiction? Can you write anything that doesn’t come from your own experience, even in that abstractified, personalized, emotional, autumnal way? Robots, vampires, gullions, wasps. C’est moi.  On the 5:40 train this morning, from New Haven to New York, a woman named Laura said over and over, “Mom, we will mail the check to Gordon on Friday. Yes, by mail. Yes, mother. This is Laura. I’m going to the city. I wrote it on the calendar. We will mail the check, yes, mail.”

Is is true? Does it matter?

 

Sing Hallelujah Come On Get Happy

To a startling and terrifying extent, I think about home invasions. I think about deer turning mean and deadly. I think about being run down by a bike, a car, a bus, a train. I fear running over the Holocaust survivor who jogs by my house every morning at 5:20. I fear squirrels when they stop chewing and take you in their sights. I fear people have died when they are late to meet me. Or that when they show, I won’t recognize them.  I fear that a bitchy email goes astray. I fear that people can read my mind. I fear my mind and the sink holes it seeks. I fear that I will always live in this body or never appreciate it. That I will fall out of  a helicopter. That I will be decapitated by her blades. That too many people will want to speak at my funeral and it will go on too long and that is all that anyone will remember instead of all the wonderful poems and songs and tributes to a person who lined her casket with bad jokes and Playbills from every show she’s ever seen.

What do you fear?

Everything You Own In a Box To the Left

Dear Betsy,

My question is this: Can a writer change her style?  Is style a fundamental thing, a part of a writer’s nature or is it malleable; subject to change? Can we/should we try to change that which is inherent in our writer’s soul, or am I making all this up?
 
I keep hearing, over & over, that I’m a good writer but that my writing is too quiet; too literary for the current market. I revise and edit, seeking to pick up the pacing, etc. but my style is my style. Even I can see that I lean towards introspective mood pieces, even with all kinds of action and tension and plot shifts woven in. I consider myself a teachable and flexible person, totally open to change. If I’m missing the point somewhere, I’d really like to know.
 
Thank you so much for your time, and for your interesting insights on the blog.
Best to you,
NAME WITHHELD
 
Dear Lord, this is a good question. Can a leopard change her spots? Can styled be learned? How do I make more noise? Am I missing the point? I only know that I’ve seen writers vastly improve over time. Does this mean they  have changed their style? Probably not. In my experience, your so called style is as intrinsic to you as the gait of your walk, your handwriting, the kink of your hair. I think there is something essential about style, but that doesn’t mean you can’t improve. In fact, you SHOULD improve. When I think about the career of any artist over time, I see their essential style emerge in work after work. Philip ROth’s style has basically stayed constant though his novels became more complex from a structural point of view and then deeper, more emotionally complex and more emblematic too. Writers who experiment with different genres can seem to deploy a different set of stylistic chops. Capote comes to mind and more recently Denis Johnson. And yet… If you are frustrated with your style or simply aren’t getting the response you want from the world, then it behooves you, of course, to take a serious look at how you approach your work, or even as an experiment to try non-fiction if your fiction is fizzling, or to  write some short stories from the point of view of someone very different from yourself, or a poem. Or a letter. Or to start reading and write a paper as if you were in the tenth grade and had to figure out what made it tick. 
 
Any advice here? 
 
 

When You’re Strange

I never mind coming home. I’m a person for whom travel presents a great many challenges (too many and unpleasant to elaborate here). What I love is coming home and returning to my beloved rituals. Especially opening mail, separating the wheat from the chaff, the catalogues, the invitations to join AARP, the circulars from Best Buy. There was a royalty check, a check from giving a talk to graduate students at an esteemed university, just enough to keep me going in the fantasy of This Is Your Life as a writer/sock puppet. I am highly disciplined and will not crack my People until I get my fat ass back to the gym. I scan the contents of The New Yorker like a doctor reviewing a medical chart, interested and distracted at once. I put bills here. I put my husband’s bills there.  I have two letters from a friend from graduate school. THese I also put aside for later, only to savor.

What do you do when you get home?

How Can You Just Leave Me Standing?

I want to thank everyone again for making one of the most superb reading lists I’ve studied in a long time. I’m choosing Intrusions by Ursula Hegi.  I loved her book Stones From the River, and I always like to read books about how writers suffer. In fact, I have quite a library in the genre and had never heard of it. So, thank you.

RUnners up: Room by Emma Donaghue. I’m always interested in books about extremely dark issues that become bestsellers, the received wisdom that dark books don’t sell. The Library of Shadows sounds deliciously scary. Crossing to Safety is one of those book I feel I SHOULD read. Why can’t I want to? NIPPLE ALERT on The Chronology of Water. Whoa. Too much nipple for me and it’s the kind of title that might sound good at first glance, but then….On The Beach by Nevil Shute has always been in the back of my mind. I read Middlemarch. Fair and Square. Wishful Drinking is a great fucking title. And I’ve always meant to read A Fine Balance (another great title).

But my favorite new title is Joseph Anton. This was Rushdie’s humble name for himself when he was in hiding. THe Joseph comes from Joseph Conrad and the Anton from Anton Chekhov. While I’m away next week, please add as many of your own pseudonyms using the “Rushdie Method” as you can manage. Mine, of course, is  J.D. Sylvia

p.s. will the Hegi recommender send me his or her snail mail address to askbetsylerner@gmail.com to collect your THREE books!!

p.s.s. the best “Rushdie Method” name gets a signed copy of FFTT and a photograph (a mystery photograph)

p.s.s.s. have a great week. I’ll miss you. Back on the 8th. Miss you already.

May You Build a Ladder To The Stars

The high holy days. As a teenager, it used to mean getting stoned outside the synagogue behind the playground named for kids who died. Why did I become irreverent instead of reverent. Why did I hate everything and everyone? Today in temple, I watched an older man rub his wife’s shoulders, then knead her neck, then run his hands up and down her back. The first knuckle on his index finger was crooked and rigid with arthritis; soon his whole hand would be gnarled like tree roots. I prayed he would stop when I noticed another man rubbing his wife’s back a few rows up. What the fuck is this, I wondered, an epidemic? Then I said kaddish for my father and for my sister, and then for some reason Lucy Grealy, who came into my thoughts unbidden. Then I went to a break the fast party and a woman came up to me and said, “You wrote that book. The fat book. You’re not that fat.”

I hope that all of us who keep writing are written again this  year into the book of Life. Are you hanging in?

Put It In the Pantry With Your Cupcakes

Thanks for all those suggestions you erudite motherfuckers. I’m going to need a little time to go through the comments again and pick a book (and a winner). I’m exhausted. Cutting deals. Crafting editorial letters. Reviewing royalty statements. Judging jackets. Dinner with rock stars. Slipping into a coma on Metronorth. Is Jimmy Fallon cute or is he the kid in the third row who always kept looking back at the kids in the last row and encouraging them with weak laughter? I’ve been an agent for twelve years. If this were the program I’d get some badass coin andf tell my tale at a meeting where the folding chairs scuff the linoleum and the basket we use for collecting donations is made out of synthetic wicker.

What are you hiding?