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    If I’ve learned one thing about writers, it’s this: we really are all alone. Thanks for reading. Love, Betsy

Summer Lovin’

Dear Betsy, Since January is the season to apply for summer writing workshops, I wonder what you think of them. For someone who is on draft 10 and year 5 of a novel he started during his MFA, is it worth $1,000 to get a manuscript evaluation at Tin House? Or is that nuts? Other than improving the writing, I imagine the workshops are good for networking. So if a fledgling writer is going to blow a few grand on a workshop, which one? Breadloaf or Tin House? Sewanee or Provincetown? Do you shoot for faculty you admire or authors who write the kinds of book you are writing and might help you land an agent? Thanks in advance for the wisdom and insight. Loyal blog reader

This belongs to Betsy Lerner

Dearest Loyal: I’m going to be honest with you. There is only one reason to go to a summer writing workshop and that is to get laid. I’ve been to four or five writing workshops as a student and I never got laid. This was a huge disappointment. Huge. And I’m not even going to talk about the “dance” they hold in the barn at Breadloaf, aka “Bedloaf.” It’s ridiculous. EVERYONE gets laid. There’s even a faculty fuck pad where everyone leaves their own bottle with name tags! Name tags!

I went to my first summer writing workshop at Johns Hopkins. I wanted to get the poet David St. John for a teacher but I didn’t. Good story? However, a met a woman who would become a lifelong friend, my client, and my best reader. Workshops: three thousand dollars. A reader you trust: priceless.

I think workshops can be extremely valuable. That said, I don’t think you can necessarily choose your teacher, and networking opportunities may or may not present themselves. Go because you need a shot in the arm, or some solid feedback, or the feeling of community. Go because you know you’ve been working on that novel for way too long and it’s time to pony up. Go because poets wear ballet flats and novelists play poker, because of conversation overheard, because you might get some writing done, because it might be fun, because a writer you admire is sitting at the next table, and because you might get lucky.

Any feedback from the summer conference world for my loyal reader?


Money Doesn’t Talk, It Swears

I want to talk about money. Impossible not to quote Samuel Johnson’s, “no man but a blockhead ever wrote, except for money.”  Friends, I’ve worked with a lot of blockheads. Then there is the new age-y advice to do what you love and the money will follow. If that’s true, then how come no one ever gets paid for eating in front of the tv? Some writers keep their day job and write at dawn. Others forgo regular employment to support their writing, cobbling together a precarious income with no health benefits . It seems to me that whatever you say about money, you must also say something about time.

I doubt I’m alone in saying that getting paid for my two books was the best money I ever made. I would have laminated that first check and put it over the cash register if I had been the proprietor of a diner.

Writing is awesome. Getting paid for writing is ___________________. (fill in the blank)

Do you write for money? If not, what?

If You Wanted the Sky I Would Write Across the Sky

When I was in the fifth grade, I was crazy about my English teacher Miss Presnell. She has horse hair clogs and played Jethro Tull’s Aqua Lung during class, handing out the lyrics for us to analyze.

Then, in the 12th grade, Myra Fassler. She was probably sixty, had a wardrobe of beige slacks and cardigans. She marched around the room in her crepe sole shoes with a poetry book in her hand. She nearly spit out “Daddy” as she circled the room. You do no do. You do not do.

One night a week, we were invited to her home. Only three of us ever showed. We’d sit around a coffee table that looked like an inverted drum, filled with poetry magazines and thin paperback poetry books. I loved sifting through them, listening to Myra read. When I won $100 for a writing prize at the end of the year, I spent the whole thing on poetry books. I didn’t even save some for a nickel bag.

Who were your teachers? Mentors?

The Way I Feel When I’m In Your Hands

Does honesty have to be brutal? How many writers say: be brutally honest. Isn’t honest enough? And what are they really saying? In many cases, I think it’s code for: be gentle. Learning how to be brutally honest and gentle at the same time is the agent’s/editor’s duty. Obviously, some are better at it than others. Of course, I’d like to think I’m good at it, but who knows? You’re better at it with some writers than others. It’s often a matter of clicking, and in the best cases you inspire each other.

For me, there are just 2-3 people from whom I can take criticism and use it constructively. They are highly critical, but they converse in a way doesn’t make me feel defensive. We’ve developed a language over time; it feels collaborative and exciting. I think of them as my cut men, giving me just what I need to get back in the ring.

When I was younger anything anyone said affected me so deeply it was ridiculous. I still don’t know how I survived the MFA workshops. (Oh, yeah, that little six month “sabbatical.” LOL) Well, my dearest darling readers, how do you like your honesty: straight up, brutal, gentle, between the eyes, poached, baked, with a side of fries? Tell me the truth.

Is That You, Baby?

Thanks to everyone who read and continued to comment over the holiday. Apparently, some people didn’t think I could stay away, especially our darling A. who wrote, “Yeah, who knew Betsy had such self control?” Not how I envisioned her.” It’s true, self control isn’t my strong suit. My parents always accused me of “not knowing when to stop.” And god knows, I’ve found myself waking up in bushes enough times to know that I had a wee problem putting on the brakes.

I’ve always wondered how temperament relates to writing. I used to edit a young woman, totally out of control, who basically plugged her pen into a socket. I worked with another woman, so quiet and cautious that she seemed to disappear. And she wrote a book about that: Disappearance. I know another writer who claims to have a huge cock, and this, he would say, accounted for his big sprawling novels and his staying power.

If you are a safe and cautious person, is that reflected in your writing? If you are bold and swaggering, then what? Does personal temperament inform your writing? Do writers resemble their work? Why do we love to look at author photos if not to glean something about the personality and how that relates to the writing. Is that you, baby, or just a brilliant disguise?

Givin’ Yourself to Me Can Never Be Wrong

This is it, my last post until Monday, January 4, 2010.

As a small child, I felt in my heart two contradictory feelings, the horror of life and the ecstasy of life.

Here’s my question, if I don’t believe in god, resolutions, or e-books, what do I have to look forward to in the new year? The answer, Nation, is writing. Writing. And writing. As far as I can tell it’s the only way out. I want to know on January 4, 2010, what you did, writing-wise, on your vacation (or few days off, I hope).

Did you finish your novel, start one? Did you get your query letters buffed and polished? Did you write a poem? Read a poem? Sublimate massive amounts of rage at those who rejected you this year and kept writing? Did you write a letter? On paper? Did you put a novel away? Did you write in your diary? Did you find the common thread in your story collection? Did you start therapy to deal with your  writer’s block?

Did find a title for your new project, and that title galvanized the whole thing in your mind? Did you write twenty new pages? Ten? Or did you throw out every page you wrote, but wtf, you knew you were getting somewhere, big picture-wise. Or you threw every page away and fell into a deep despair which seemed to have no end in sight? Or did you just jerk off, and by that I mean were you really good to yourself?

My goal is block out my new script with my collaborator. And figure out how to install the new Final Draft software. If it would help to pledge your writing goal here, go for it.

Please take good care. I miss you already.  Otherwise, happy and healthy new year. Let’s hope it doesn’t suck as much as this year. Love, Betsy

You Talk Too Much You Never Shut Up

I always feel that it’s a big mistake to tell people what you’re working on. In part, if you talk too much about it there’s a greater chance that you won’t do it. There’s also the feeling that if you give too much away, you leech the project of its essential oils. I’m never paranoid that anyone is going to “steal” my ideas; I don’t think people really can steal your ideas, or execute them the way that you would. Still, blabbing too soon is like an artist showing his subject the portrait when it is half done. You leave yourself wide open.

Also, I always feel like an ass when I talk about a work in progress. Last week at a memorial services, someone asked me what I was working on and I described an intricate plot for a screenplay I haven’t written a word of. Call me superstitious, but I’m pretty sure I jinxed it and never will write a word of it. Whereas if I kept my big fat fucking mouth closed, the idea would continue to blossom in my head rather than be dispelled. Maybe I will, but I think it’s a point well taken. Don’t go on about the most important work in your life at a cocktail party, spinning class, at the dry cleaner or the mikvah. Protect it, keep it under wraps, let it marinate and percolate before it takes its first breath of air. Is yakking every beneficial to your project? Or best to keep it corked?

Hello Darkness My Old Friend

Sometimes I think that all writing is an attempt not to disappear, not in the sense of being immortalized, but in the act itself, the actual writing. That every pen-stroke or key-stroke is a way of refusing to be erased, a way of making sure you’re still there.

I used to write in the crawl space beneath the stairs when I was 10.  I had a diary with a thin gold rule around the edges and a lock that a butterfly could pick. In there I confessed my hatred for my best friend, the ongoing torment from my older sister, my great love of hot dogs. When I think of myself down there, the blanket and pillow I purloined from the guest room, the shadeless lamp, I could really cry. Why did I need that makeshift bunker? What was I so desperate to express and why did I have to hide it?

I had no idea that I would grow up and help countless writers out of their bunkers, help them with their books, see the light of day. Though I have a few writers with a positive outlook, I’ve mostly observed that writing comes out of darkness, that writing seeks light. I think that’s what I was doing in my bunker when I first found words.  I would love to hear from other writers who wrote as children or teens and what they recall of their first efforts.

Revision: A Pop Quiz

TRUE OR FALSE:

True or false:  Writers lie with abandon about how much they revise.

True or false: Some writers say they are revising when, if you ask me, what they are doing is playing with their food.

True or false: Most writers, at first glance, resist editorial advice even as they yearn for it. No matter how expert the editing may be, it’s a violation first, a bandage second.

True or false: The best writers take editorial advice and transform the work by truly rewriting, brutally cutting, deepening, etc.

True or false: Some agents and editors hate it  when writers send a memo detailing why they didn’t take certain edits.

True or false: Nabokov replied to editing with a “thunderous stet.”

True or false:  Stet is the latin word for “eat me.”

True or false: If you had to retype your entire manuscript, you might give up on it.

 

True or false:  If a gun were put to your head and you had to cut 20% of your book, would it be better off?

True or false:  James Franco is doing a guest spot on General Hospital.

 

Tonight You’re Mine Completely

The great paradox of my life as an agent is that I am able to walk through fire for my clients while I can barely ask for anything for myself. 

I have clients who can’t ask for what they need. I try to fish them out of the water and pump their stomachs. I have some who love to ask in a roundabout way. And those who squall.

Does the ability to ask for something determine the chance of getting it? I always remember a line from Rocky Horror Picture Show (I know, again with the high-minded references) when Riff Raff says he wants nothing and Dr. Frank-N-Furter lashes back, “and you shall receive it — in abundance.”

The writer’s life is a limitless series of frustrations. The only thing you have control over is the actual writing. Every other step of the process demands that you ask for something. Will you be my agent? Will you publish my book? Will you blurb my book? Will you review my book? Will you Tweet my book? Will you come to my reading? Will you buy it? Will you read it? Will you like it? Will you fuck it? And most important, will you still love me tomorrow? Is it any wonder we’re all a bunch of nutters?